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In brief

  • Jesse Norman said Andy Burnham breached the presumption of innocence at PMQs on 14 October and asked him to apologise and withdraw the statement about Ann Widdecombe's murder.

  • A 28-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of murder on 11 July. He has been charged with a number of offences and with a terror plot against Nigel Farage, with a plea hearing on 29 January 2027 and a trial on 8 June 2027.

  • A deleted register of interests shows Burnham had two hospitality dinners with Khaldoon Al Mubarak, against his earlier claim of one 'significant' meeting, which he said was included in his statement on Monday 12 October.

  • A YouGov poll for The Times and Sky News put the Conservatives on 23 per cent, while More in Common had them on 24 per cent, both ahead of Reform UK on 21 per cent.

How it came to this
  1. 14 OctJesse Norman raises a point of order over Burnham's PMQs remarks
  2. 29 January 2027Plea and case management hearing
  3. 8 June 2027Trial before a High Court judge scheduled

Burnham's remarks at PMQs

At Prime Minister's Questions on Wednesday 14 October, Andy Burnham described an individual as responsible for the murder of Ann Widdecombe, even though the legal process is still at an early stage. Shadow Commons leader Jesse Norman raised a point of order, arguing that the remark breached the presumption of innocence and was misleading to the House.

“A man is innocent until proven guilty. The presumption of innocence goes back to Magna Carta.”

Jesse Norman, shadow Commons leader

Norman asked the Prime Minister to apologise and withdraw the statement. Deputy Speaker Nusrat Ghani replied that the content of ministers' answers is not a matter for the chair, but that the Treasury frontbench would have heard the point. Speaker Lindsay Hoyle had granted a 'limited waiver' on Monday 12 October, allowing MPs to discuss the case despite the sub judice rule, which bars MPs from referring to matters awaiting adjudication in court. Words spoken in the Commons are protected by parliamentary privilege, and No 10 declined to comment on the evening of 14 October.

The criminal case

Ann Widdecombe, 78, a former Conservative minister and Reform UK's justice spokeswoman, was found dead at her property in Haytor on Dartmoor, Devon. A 28-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of murder on 11 July, two days after Widdecombe was found dead. Hoyle noted that the man has been charged with a number of offences, and he has also been charged with a terror plot against Reform UK leader Nigel Farage. A plea and case management hearing is set for 29 January 2027, and a trial before a High Court judge for 8 June 2027.

Badenoch and the Manchester City question

Conservative MP Jeremy Mayhew asked about a deleted register of interests that showed Burnham had two hospitality dinners with Manchester City chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak. Burnham had previously said he had only one 'significant' meeting with the chairman. In reply, Burnham said that nobody from Manchester City had raised the charges with him and that the hospitality meetings were included in his statement on Monday 12 October. Kemi Badenoch then said:

“I don't think his carefully worded answer will suffice”

Kemi Badenoch, conservative leader

She did not return to the point. Her questions instead covered Burnham's Russia and Brexit claims, whether he would approve the Rosebank and Jackdaw oil and gas fields, whether he would cut benefits to boost defence spending, and whether he would help business owners with tax.

Brexit claims and Reform jibes

Burnham doubled down on his claim that Russia interfered in the 2016 Brexit referendum, and Badenoch accused him of 'putting his foot in his mouth' over it. Burnham also praised her for answering crude and offensive jibes from elements of Nigel Farage's Reform Party, which suggested that mixed-race children, including Badenoch's own three children, were not entitled to call themselves English. He told the Commons:

“I commend her for drawing a line with the party over there for suggesting that her children were not British.”

Andy Burnham, prime Minister

Polling after the conference

Two post-conference polls have put the Conservatives in second place. A YouGov poll for The Times and Sky News had the party on 23 per cent, up three points and at its highest on YouGov's tracker since January 2025, with Labour on 24 per cent and Reform UK on 21 per cent. A More in Common poll had the Conservatives on 24 per cent, Reform on 21 per cent and Labour on 28 per cent, placing the Tories second after more than 18 months in third. Sir John Curtice had earlier told a Conservative Party Conference fringe event that the party had made little progress and remained broadly where it was after the election.

Voting intention in two post-conference polls%
YouGov: Conservatives23%
YouGov: Labour24%
YouGov: Reform UK21%
More in Common: Conservatives24%
More in Common: Labour28%
More in Common: Reform UK21%
YouGov: Conservatives
23 %
YouGov: Labour
24 %
YouGov: Reform UK
21 %
More in Common: Conservatives
24 %
More in Common: Labour
28 %
More in Common: Reform UK
21 %

Data from the article text

In this text

Burnham's remarks at PMQsBurnham's remarks at PMQsThe criminal caseThe criminal caseBadenoch and the Manchester City questionBadenoch and the Manchester City questionBrexit claims and Reform jibesBrexit claims and Reform jibesPolling after the conferencePolling after the conference

Based on reports by

The Independent, The Telegraph, The Guardian, inews.co.uk, The Scotsman

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Sources and context

  • The Independenton 14 Oct at 18:10Burnham told to apologise over Ann Widdecombe murder case comments during PMQs
  • The Telegraphon 14 Oct at 16:55Burnham's blundering PMQs return: a gaffe fest that will come back to haunt him
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Andy Burnham
Prime Minister whose PMQs remarks on the Widdecombe murder case are challenged
Ann Widdecombe
Former Conservative minister and Reform UK justice spokeswoman, found dead at her property in Haytor
Jesse Norman
Shadow Commons leader who raised the point of order
Kemi Badenoch
Conservative leader who questioned Burnham at PMQs
Nigel Farage
Reform UK leader, named as the target of a terror plot charge
Lindsay Hoyle
Speaker of the House of Commons who granted a limited waiver on the case
Nusrat Ghani
Deputy Speaker who responded to the point of order
Khaldoon Al Mubarak
Manchester City chairman named in the hospitality dinners
John Curtice
Polling expert who said the Conservatives had made little progress

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Government · London and Haytor

Burnham faces demand to apologise over remarks on Ann Widdecombe murder case

Shadow Commons leader Jesse Norman said Andy Burnham breached the presumption of innocence by speaking as though a man awaiting trial had already been convicted of Ann Widdecombe's murder. The remarks came at PMQs on Wednesday 14 October, and No 10 declined to comment.

AI text based on reports by The Independent, The Telegraph, The Guardian and other publishers. Published on 14 Oct at 18:39.

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